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do you feel sorry for john boehner who has all these circus folks with him? >> i don't. >> eliot: shocking to me. >> look, he has--he's trying to maintain his caucus, and you know, at the end of the day i don't really invest too heavily about the actual persons of these politicians. the fact that you were talking about lindsey graham who pressureperceived-- >> eliot: i was setting him up to tear him down. >> the point is he's facing re-election. the republican electorate that the republicans have nurtured and grown. they have created frankenstein, i've said it before on this program, and basically they're at the mercy of these people. they created this monster and they can't put it back in the bottle. >> eliot: would you agree with sam, they are now the victims of their own creation. they cannot escape the tea party fringe who has knocked out the more moderate voices of the establishment party so they're left with only the fear of the far rate. shame on them. >> i don't mean to put too fine of a point on it, the republican party of this party is demented. i w
do you feel sorry for john boehner who has all these circus folks with him? >> i don't. >> eliot: shocking to me. >> look, he has--he's trying to maintain his caucus, and you know, at the end of the day i don't really invest too heavily about the actual persons of these politicians. the fact that you were talking about lindsey graham who pressureperceived-- >> eliot: i was setting him up to tear him down. >> the point is he's facing re-election. the republican...
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president obama rejected the latest proposal from john boehner. the president and the democrats are focused on revenue and they are determined to make sure that the top tax rates go up. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks, for example, about $800 billion worth of revenues, but he says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> harry reid wasted no time explaining why the boehner proposal is not serious. >> math. you can't get from here to there unless you raise the rates. that's why romney couldn't explain it during the presidential election. no one can explain it because you can't do it. >> jay carney says the speaker's plans raises more questions than answers. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we're talking about in terms of actual legislation to increase revenues. it's magic beans and fairy dust. >> john boehner's heavy-handed approach to leadership, boehner and the republican steering committee kicked four republican congressmen out of the
president obama rejected the latest proposal from john boehner. the president and the democrats are focused on revenue and they are determined to make sure that the top tax rates go up. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks, for example, about $800 billion worth of revenues, but he says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> harry reid wasted no time explaining why the boehner proposal is...
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is this john boehner's caucus? is it eric cantor's caucus? negotiating with john boehner when he doesn't control things is not tenable for the white house, not tenable for john boehner. >> well, i guess in the beltway here where i am tonight and the micro, it's cantor or boehner, but the bigger picture, if the president succeeds in terming the country around on this whole obsession with protecting the rich and protecting no tax cuts, that's a big moment. possible transformative moment in where we are in american politics. krystal ball and richard wolffe, thanks for your time this evening. >> thank you, reverend. >> be sure to catch krystal on "the cycle" weekdays at 3 p.m. right here on msnbc. >>> ahead, he tried to get attention with a disasterous soup kitchen op, and now he wants to rebrand himself as someone who cares about the poor. we reveal paul ryan's makeover plans. and more on the box republicans are in and president obama's power play. senator barbara boxer of california joins me on that. >>> plus, it's the gop's worst nightmare com
is this john boehner's caucus? is it eric cantor's caucus? negotiating with john boehner when he doesn't control things is not tenable for the white house, not tenable for john boehner. >> well, i guess in the beltway here where i am tonight and the micro, it's cantor or boehner, but the bigger picture, if the president succeeds in terming the country around on this whole obsession with protecting the rich and protecting no tax cuts, that's a big moment. possible transformative moment in...
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but something as you saw there from orrin hatch and speaker john boehner that has been rejected. so, the senate has passed a bill that follows the president's wishes that extends the bush era tax cuts for the bottom 98%, but does not extend them for the top 2%. those couples filing jointly making more than $250,000 a year. so, it's past the senate and gone no where in the republican-controlled house. what are the options available? nancy pelosi digging into the playbook as you reported with something called a discharge petition. if a majority of the members of the house sign this petition, then the speaker of the house, of the majority party, of course, is forced to put something on the floor that he does not want to put on the floor. i have to tell you, craig, sort of a hail mary and it hasn't worked for ten years when mccain feingold was put on the floor of the house by virtue of the fact that they had a discharge position. it has been tried hundreds of times in the past 100 years. it very seldom works. you can see now, democrats trying everything nay can do. putting on public
but something as you saw there from orrin hatch and speaker john boehner that has been rejected. so, the senate has passed a bill that follows the president's wishes that extends the bush era tax cuts for the bottom 98%, but does not extend them for the top 2%. those couples filing jointly making more than $250,000 a year. so, it's past the senate and gone no where in the republican-controlled house. what are the options available? nancy pelosi digging into the playbook as you reported with...
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host: john buckley. guest: i could not agree more. i believe the economic impact of increasing taxes on the top 2% has been exaggerated, the negative consequences. i believe the caller is absolutely correct that the economic will be an of wealthy individuals in this economy requires a robust middle-class was demand for the goods and services that corporations produce. that is why it's easy for me to be a democrat. you need to help the middle class. if the other upper-income people to the view that there are going to have to be sacrifices in order to solve our budget, the question is what group do you mask to make the sacrifice first? that is where i believe president obama is exactly correct. now, i would also say that the upper-income people, their businesses will be better if the sacrifice is first at the upper level and not by taking away social security or medicare benefits that reduced demand in this society for other goods and services. there is an economic argument that i think is beginning to see more of, which is essentially
host: john buckley. guest: i could not agree more. i believe the economic impact of increasing taxes on the top 2% has been exaggerated, the negative consequences. i believe the caller is absolutely correct that the economic will be an of wealthy individuals in this economy requires a robust middle-class was demand for the goods and services that corporations produce. that is why it's easy for me to be a democrat. you need to help the middle class. if the other upper-income people to the view...
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john boehner and president obama. david, i see you smiling down there. >> i was waiting for judd to jump in. he is the one that convinced me. >> ultimately, i think they have gotten more than they can handle. the revenue targets they need to reach, the spending targets they need to reach now are enormous, but if you look down the road, in particular at health care spending, given the discussion we had before, we can do everything we want to try to control health-care spending, but another way to help control health care spending is earmarked a value-added tax toward revenue which would have much was spent, how much people have to pay in taxes, it would eliminate their regressivity of that, and it would, using a pun, inoculate the deficit from uncertainty about health-care reform. health care reform will take a long time. it is more complicated than tax reform. we have had one major tax reform in the last 50 years, thanks to senator packwood and others. health-care reform is going to take a long time. we cannot wait to
john boehner and president obama. david, i see you smiling down there. >> i was waiting for judd to jump in. he is the one that convinced me. >> ultimately, i think they have gotten more than they can handle. the revenue targets they need to reach, the spending targets they need to reach now are enormous, but if you look down the road, in particular at health care spending, given the discussion we had before, we can do everything we want to try to control health-care spending, but...
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john are you with us? john in hampton, georgia. moving onto james in frankfort, kentucky, republican collar. >> caller: yes, ma'am, i want to know why politicians don't get out and see what is going on with all these people on disability and setting up in the porch, smoking a cigarette two miles down the road to higher people do go down in check and the guys won't work. it's not legally over here to work in the government pay in the house the kids. it's time they got a business of supporting supporting case. >> guest: again, covered a lot of territory there. i'm a very conservative republican. i believe government should do as little as possible. having said that, there are legitimate cases where people need help in typically children, through no fault of their own in difficult circumstances i think it's an obligation there. so the question here is the right kind of balance. but if you set overall is the government doing too much? yes, it probably is. but i'm not saying everything needs to be rooted out, but it does need to be look
john are you with us? john in hampton, georgia. moving onto james in frankfort, kentucky, republican collar. >> caller: yes, ma'am, i want to know why politicians don't get out and see what is going on with all these people on disability and setting up in the porch, smoking a cigarette two miles down the road to higher people do go down in check and the guys won't work. it's not legally over here to work in the government pay in the house the kids. it's time they got a business of...
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when he came up with yesterday was $4 of new tacks for every dollar of spending cut, that's when john boehner simply said we're nowhere an that's where they are now, but there's 30 days. >> ethan, don't the republicans if they want to break this stalemate, maybe what the president's doing is saying these are the cuts i want to make, so guys, why don't you come up with the rest? >> i don't think that's really a fair criticism. republicans have passed the budget that paul ryan pugt together. now, you may not agree with that budget, but it does outline specific cuts. republicans are on the record for those and would probably say here's our list of cuts, mr. president. what's your list? >> the president has other things he may not have included. say they take it from paul ryan's budget, but don't they owe him a list? >> they do and they haven't really provided one. there's a great article in politico yesterday. they talk ed about how democrat, the president's come forward with 1.6 trillion in revenue increases, it's been very detailed. and then you know, he asks okay, republicans what do
when he came up with yesterday was $4 of new tacks for every dollar of spending cut, that's when john boehner simply said we're nowhere an that's where they are now, but there's 30 days. >> ethan, don't the republicans if they want to break this stalemate, maybe what the president's doing is saying these are the cuts i want to make, so guys, why don't you come up with the rest? >> i don't think that's really a fair criticism. republicans have passed the budget that paul ryan pugt...
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>> john edwards. >> getting a haircut. >> if there was an oil painting of john edwards -- the haircut's not the first thing they'd mention. nbc's -- >> john edwards has an oil painting of himself in his house, i bet money on that. >> she didn't say oily. >> the seasonally elegant luke russert, thank you for joining us. and cnbc's john harwood, thank you. >>> fast-food works are joining thousands of low-wage earners in a day of solidarity. our super sized income problem in america ahead on "now." >>> time for the "your business" entrepreneur of the week. lauren wanted to introduce the cabbage dish to mainstream america. using former skills a marketer she created mother-in-law's k kimchi. the product carried in whole foods and pressure markets. watch "your business" this sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. [ male announcer ] now's the perfect time to buy an adjustable version of the most highly recommended bed in america. the tempur-pedic ergo system. treat yourself to the ultimate sleep experience and save up to $400 during the tempur ergo savings event. plus visit tempurpedic.com for full
>> john edwards. >> getting a haircut. >> if there was an oil painting of john edwards -- the haircut's not the first thing they'd mention. nbc's -- >> john edwards has an oil painting of himself in his house, i bet money on that. >> she didn't say oily. >> the seasonally elegant luke russert, thank you for joining us. and cnbc's john harwood, thank you. >>> fast-food works are joining thousands of low-wage earners in a day of solidarity. our super...
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speaker of the house john boehner called it dead on arrival yesterday. the question is whether democrats in the senate hold the line here or whether they say, we need to do something about a carl levin seems to think you can't push this through with the nuclear option. you need to get two-thirds on board. >> this is what happened when they last considered this in 2010 where you had the gray beards of the institution say no, this is supposed to be the [ inaudible ] for the house and chris dodds go to the floor and say this cannot happened. what happens with gray beards is they usually leave. >> or get grayer. >> we have a new class of senate democrats coming in and saying there is a legal and constitutional basis for doing this. the thing that i think gets confused here, is that they're not doing away with the filibuster. what reid is trying to do -- >> i think they should do. >> well, you can make -- you can have the argument because a lot of reproductive rights groups would be more cauckau -- cautio about them. have them show up and get 40 votes. >> if
speaker of the house john boehner called it dead on arrival yesterday. the question is whether democrats in the senate hold the line here or whether they say, we need to do something about a carl levin seems to think you can't push this through with the nuclear option. you need to get two-thirds on board. >> this is what happened when they last considered this in 2010 where you had the gray beards of the institution say no, this is supposed to be the [ inaudible ] for the house and chris...
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john boehner was. congress' approval ratings seemed to go up because everybody seems so conciliatory. is this going to get done? >> i very rarely admit that i was wrong, but i'm starting to get worried that maybe i was wrong. that these sides are further apart now than they were two weeks ago, which is hard to believe. i think this is going to get done. i don't think we're going to go over the fiscal cliff. republicans have put some proposals on the table moving in barack obama's direction. i don't know exactly what the game that tim geithner was playing yesterday. not only, and thank you, erin, for getting some of this math right. the president said 2.5 for every tax increase and yesterday he came up with $4 of new taxes for every dollar of spending cuts. that's when john boehner simply said we're nowhere. >> ethan, don't the republicans if they want to break this stalemate, maybe what the president's doing is saying these are the cuts i want to make, so guys, why don't you come up with the rest? >> i
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the trick is you have the rush limbaugh wing of the republican party that has really pulling john boehner and pulling republicans farther to the right and i hope that this is just posturing and that now that they have gotten their posturing out of the way, everybody can come to the table but certainly that wasn't what happened last year. so it just really remains to be seen. >> the president drove homeç t point today that tax rates need to go up. there's no other solution. take a listen. >> the holdup right now is that speaker boehner took a position i think the day after the campaign that said we're willing to bring in revenue but we're not willing to increase rates. and i just explained to you why we don't think that works. we're not insisting on rates just out of spite or out of any kind of partisan victory. but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> congresswoman, do the republicans realize the president did win the election? >> well, certainly some of the republicans have caught on and also realize they are just on the wrong side of the majority of american
the trick is you have the rush limbaugh wing of the republican party that has really pulling john boehner and pulling republicans farther to the right and i hope that this is just posturing and that now that they have gotten their posturing out of the way, everybody can come to the table but certainly that wasn't what happened last year. so it just really remains to be seen. >> the president drove homeç t point today that tax rates need to go up. there's no other solution. take a...
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john carney is being asked questions about her. now she's under the media onslaught for her investments. companies in iran. investments in canada. she gets all of the downside of being a nominee without any of the infrastructure and support for her. >> we can talk about that and debate that. but what i believe, i think what she did was entirely appropriate. she was given a set of talking points, to the best of our knowledge the white house used one world. she went out there and did it. now she's being torn apart for it. it's as if, when george was interviewing tim geithner was supposed to have gone and add up the numbers for their budget and make sure it was right. >> if she was a nominee there would be a whole infrastructure to support her. >> right. >> none of that is the case. >> i think that she's being treated horribly. >> by the administration too? >> well, i think she's done good work. she helped get the consequences for the no-fly zone in libya. that was hard work to do. she came through for the people attacking her right n
john carney is being asked questions about her. now she's under the media onslaught for her investments. companies in iran. investments in canada. she gets all of the downside of being a nominee without any of the infrastructure and support for her. >> we can talk about that and debate that. but what i believe, i think what she did was entirely appropriate. she was given a set of talking points, to the best of our knowledge the white house used one world. she went out there and did it....
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i know john hilsenrath is a great reporter. i think the problem is -- many thanks, lee, for helping us out. >>> here's a thought experiment. what if i told you there would be no fiscal cliff recession? what if you believe me? how would you invest? well, we're going to give stephanie that challenge. she's director of research of "the street" and co-portfolio manager of jim crepers's charitable truth. an old friend. i'm here to say obama is bluffing, there's not going to be a fiscal cliff, they will do something to stop the taxes from expiring. he doesn't want to be herbert hoover obama. i'm putting that on the table. if you take that off the table, you look at the economy, profits, the stuff, there's no lending going on, what is your outlook for the stock market? ivities i think we would be higher if we didn't have this issue. we have low interest rates, not only here, but globally the monetary policy will stay easy. whether you like it or not, it's going to stay easy for a long time. >> i would argue that it's helped. i would l
i know john hilsenrath is a great reporter. i think the problem is -- many thanks, lee, for helping us out. >>> here's a thought experiment. what if i told you there would be no fiscal cliff recession? what if you believe me? how would you invest? well, we're going to give stephanie that challenge. she's director of research of "the street" and co-portfolio manager of jim crepers's charitable truth. an old friend. i'm here to say obama is bluffing, there's not going to be a...
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do you think john boehner is the guy who's going to get this done? is he going to be able to lead your party to consensus? >> i don't know the answer to that question. what he's trying to do is to mitigate the damage that obama would do with these massive increases in rates. impasse is not an option. means everybody's taxes go up, but if the president has his way, taxes are going to go up on those very wealthy folks making over 200,000, but most are small businesses filing a subchapter s companies, about 88% of net small business income will be for these taxes when we're depending on them to create two-thirds of the new jobs. boehner's trying to mitigate that mess. i wish him luck. something's going to f to have to give. >> from everything i've heard is that we are realistically, there's two options for country. one, go over the cliff. the other, extend the bush tax cuts for the 98% of americans. everyone who makes under $200,000 a year if they're single. those seem to be the two choices. between those, which do you pick? >> but, if we do that and ra
do you think john boehner is the guy who's going to get this done? is he going to be able to lead your party to consensus? >> i don't know the answer to that question. what he's trying to do is to mitigate the damage that obama would do with these massive increases in rates. impasse is not an option. means everybody's taxes go up, but if the president has his way, taxes are going to go up on those very wealthy folks making over 200,000, but most are small businesses filing a subchapter s...
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they are really making more concession than john boehner. eric cantor says republicans are not going to adjourn this year until a deal is reached. is that a sign of early capitulation? he knows republicans can't go home to their districts with absolutely nothing to show for it. that's not what the american people voted for. john boehner says he's willing to stick around town to get a deal done? >> i'll be here and i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president, to get serious about solving this problem. >> but president obama says john boehner's presence is not the solution, it's the problem. >> the holdup right now is that speaker boehner took a position, you think the day after the campaign, that said, we're willing to bring in revenue, but we're not willing to increase rates. and i've just explained to you why we don't think that works. >> senate majority leader harry reid has also called republicans out for sabotaging the democratic process. now, putting this all into context, he tweeted out today, harry reid did, "i shar
they are really making more concession than john boehner. eric cantor says republicans are not going to adjourn this year until a deal is reached. is that a sign of early capitulation? he knows republicans can't go home to their districts with absolutely nothing to show for it. that's not what the american people voted for. john boehner says he's willing to stick around town to get a deal done? >> i'll be here and i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president, to get...
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john boehner, again, speaker, said we're at a stalemate. is that how you would describe where things are? >> i think we're far apart still, but i think we're moving closer together. again, remember -- >> where are you closer? >> the republicans have said for the first time in decades, if i'm not mistaken, the leaders of the republican party, that they are prepared to raise taxes as part of a deal that helps reduce our long term deficit. what they haven't said is how far they're willing to go on rates and revenues, and that's what we need to see from them. >> they said no increased rates. >> but that's -- but they know this. there's not going to be an agreement without rates going up. there's not -- >> you'll go off the fiscal cliff if the republicans say, sorry, no way are we going to raise rates for the -- on the wealthy. you guys are willing to go off -- >> if republicans are not willing to let rates go back up and we think they should go back to the clinton levels, the time when the american economy was doing exceptionally well, there wi
john boehner, again, speaker, said we're at a stalemate. is that how you would describe where things are? >> i think we're far apart still, but i think we're moving closer together. again, remember -- >> where are you closer? >> the republicans have said for the first time in decades, if i'm not mistaken, the leaders of the republican party, that they are prepared to raise taxes as part of a deal that helps reduce our long term deficit. what they haven't said is how far...
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pink floyd rocker nearly all of it coming from the wall live tour and the rocket man himself elton john claimed the third spot with $80 million. not too shabby. >> i saw pink floyd in concert back in my college years. pretty good one. >> jessica simpson is this true? >> allegedly it's true. reportedly pregnant 7 months after giving birth to her first baby. telling us weekly it wasn't planned but she is expecting. could her gig as weight watchers spokesman take a back seat to baby number two you asked? the company commented saying we do not disclose financial details about our relationship with any of our bams dorrs -- ambassadors. >> i think it will work with the program. she has to work harder with the program. >> super hero show is making a ton of buzz. green arrow followed billionaire playboy oliver queen after being stranded on an island he comes home to fight crime as a secret vigilante. i found out what's in store the rest of the year. >> what we do in the coming episodes is all of the things in life that are distracting him a little bit it's one thing to help your sister after fi
pink floyd rocker nearly all of it coming from the wall live tour and the rocket man himself elton john claimed the third spot with $80 million. not too shabby. >> i saw pink floyd in concert back in my college years. pretty good one. >> jessica simpson is this true? >> allegedly it's true. reportedly pregnant 7 months after giving birth to her first baby. telling us weekly it wasn't planned but she is expecting. could her gig as weight watchers spokesman take a back seat to...
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the call unlike the night when president obama called john boehner on election day and john boehner didn't answer his call. i think that you have to have both parties willing to engage with each other and talk to each other. looking back at the 1980s, for example, when ronald reagan was president and tip o'neill was speaker of the house, they didn't agree but they sit down and talk and negotiate and compromise and today's republican party so hijacked by the right wing they're incapable of agreement. >> let's put aside the right wing here. we know that speaker boehner purged some of those seen as not being team players within his own party and we'll discuss the fact he's taken a hit for that. beyond the right wing or whatever you have numbers. you have exit polling. you have pew research poll that shows where the american people stand. if all of the people are there to represent us, meaning the people who are watching right now and the panel included here, we are all americans, we pay taxes, then why isn't this work getting done? >> well, just look at speaker boehner's fiscal cliff p
the call unlike the night when president obama called john boehner on election day and john boehner didn't answer his call. i think that you have to have both parties willing to engage with each other and talk to each other. looking back at the 1980s, for example, when ronald reagan was president and tip o'neill was speaker of the house, they didn't agree but they sit down and talk and negotiate and compromise and today's republican party so hijacked by the right wing they're incapable of...
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the republican party is going to be looking to john boehner to carry its flag. >> well, if boehner is carry the flag, kristen, today his counter proposal said we're going to protect the rich, not give a tax cut, and he put social security and cutbacks and entitlements and seniors on the table. how is that going to help them when all polls show that americans overwhelmingly won't support that. >> i disagree about all polls showing that. i think you've got a lot of folks concerned about the solvency of the entitlement programs. let's take a look. let's not leave anything off the table in terms of looking at both medicare and medicaid and social security. you also have the question of is there a way for you to increase revenue, even if it's revenue that is primarily coming from the wealthiest americans without changing the rates themselves. i think that's what republicans are trying to do with this most recent offer. >> but to increase revenues where everyone puts in but the wealthy is what helps lose the last election. we're not talking about put everything on the table and see where it
the republican party is going to be looking to john boehner to carry its flag. >> well, if boehner is carry the flag, kristen, today his counter proposal said we're going to protect the rich, not give a tax cut, and he put social security and cutbacks and entitlements and seniors on the table. how is that going to help them when all polls show that americans overwhelmingly won't support that. >> i disagree about all polls showing that. i think you've got a lot of folks concerned...
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i've known john boehner for 21 years. he recognizes that the republicans also running for re-election said to their constituents "we will not raise your taxes. we will not do anything in this economic recession to make things worse "." raising the top two rates is going to hit the job creators and i think what john boehner has said, he said this the day after the election, governor, he said we recognize that the elections have consequences, the president won. republicans are willing to give the president most of what he wants, $800 billion somewhere around a trillion of additional revenue. how do we get there. the president wants to increase tax on the wealthy. republicans want to close loopholes. i think we're a lot closer than the president and congressional republicans would lead you to believe. it is a question of how do we get there. >> jennifer: don't you think ron, if they close loopholes now, then they're not going to be able to lower the corporate tax rate -- it depends on which loopholes you close whether person
i've known john boehner for 21 years. he recognizes that the republicans also running for re-election said to their constituents "we will not raise your taxes. we will not do anything in this economic recession to make things worse "." raising the top two rates is going to hit the job creators and i think what john boehner has said, he said this the day after the election, governor, he said we recognize that the elections have consequences, the president won. republicans are...
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i remember back in 2008 it was john mccain that met with president obama. they met in his office in chicago. not at the white house. it seemed like that was the beginning, potentially of two leaders really working together. we have since seen that deteriorate. >> we can't judge personal kem tri. i think barack obama has more at stake in this lunch in the end than mitt romney. if obama can get romney to say something positive about moving a health care agenda forward after all obama care was built on the backs of romney care. if he can say something about the fiscal cliff, the president can gain some bipartisan credibility. it's also the right thing to do. the real tradition of this is started in 1960 with kennedy meeting nixon in florida, and since then it's pretty much pro forma. what is 50-50 is whether a friendship gets developed out of this kind of lunch. >> this is the kind of thing that we take for granted in the united states. you really have to think about it, when there is no peaceful transition. >> well, you know, i recently wrote about the kenned
i remember back in 2008 it was john mccain that met with president obama. they met in his office in chicago. not at the white house. it seemed like that was the beginning, potentially of two leaders really working together. we have since seen that deteriorate. >> we can't judge personal kem tri. i think barack obama has more at stake in this lunch in the end than mitt romney. if obama can get romney to say something positive about moving a health care agenda forward after all obama care...
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they still think people like even john boehner are too moderate. even though boehner is putting forward essentially the mitt romney economic plan as his supposed compromise with the president. that's not far right enough for a big chunk of the republican base. >> maria, let me play for you something one of the outcast congressmen tossed by speaker boehner said today. listen to this. >> it's not about principles. it's about blind obedience. dissent will not be tolerated, particularly conservative dissent. >> he was upset throughout that forum today. is conservative blogger eric ericsson, he writes this. conservatives must seek retribution or become the paper tiger. maria, what will the retribution look like? >> i think we're all a little scared of that. >> i am. >> right. but i think that let's be honest, i think what joy is saying is absolutely right. unless the republican party figures out a way to coalesce, they're only going to be basically a strong party in midterm elections. there's no way they are going to actually -- they actually reflect th
they still think people like even john boehner are too moderate. even though boehner is putting forward essentially the mitt romney economic plan as his supposed compromise with the president. that's not far right enough for a big chunk of the republican base. >> maria, let me play for you something one of the outcast congressmen tossed by speaker boehner said today. listen to this. >> it's not about principles. it's about blind obedience. dissent will not be tolerated, particularly...
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john boehner was willing to go further than i as a conservative would have liked. we discussed that. how does the president, planning a vacation in hawaii for 20 days. the president sends geithner to meet with the republicans yesterday. >> i don't think that's fair. >> sean: he's a tax cheat. >> he made a mistake and he paid and everyone -- [ talking over each other ] >> sean: i never cheated on my taxes i promise. obama would have caught me by now. look at his proposal, 1.6 trillion tax cut. increase rates on the wealthy only. new stimulus program 150 billion. and he wants a blank cheque that. is not a serious proposal bob. >> it is not. you talk to people in the real world, not in washington, but in the real world, they say the numbers and how this is done, i don't give a damn. i just want them to fix it. what the republicans should do is say these are the things we are going to fix. these are the numbers and this is our proposal. >> sean: wait a minute, i don't think you are being fair in one sense. the republicans said to the chagrin of a lot of conservatives t
john boehner was willing to go further than i as a conservative would have liked. we discussed that. how does the president, planning a vacation in hawaii for 20 days. the president sends geithner to meet with the republicans yesterday. >> i don't think that's fair. >> sean: he's a tax cheat. >> he made a mistake and he paid and everyone -- [ talking over each other ] >> sean: i never cheated on my taxes i promise. obama would have caught me by now. look at his proposal,...
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>> i would really much rather representative john connier's jobs bill be passed. it's much more aggressive. january ja cow ski also has a wonderful jobs bill. president obama's is much more modst. but it does lead us beginning in the right direction. we are very -- my organization is very much supporting both the schakowsky and conniers bill. and the american jobs act from president obama as well. we are working to try to get attention in the congress to those measures. and i think it's important to -- to simply make the point that although jobs are coming back in the private sector, the government has an important role to play in creating a massive jobs program that will generate the kind of consumer demand that will then cause the private sector to really start staffing up in a way that we need them to staff up to have full employment. but that should be the goal. full employment. >> terry, going back to the fiscal slope negotiations, there's basically no women really involved in the high level negotiations. nancy pelosi is sort of a side player as she was in th
>> i would really much rather representative john connier's jobs bill be passed. it's much more aggressive. january ja cow ski also has a wonderful jobs bill. president obama's is much more modst. but it does lead us beginning in the right direction. we are very -- my organization is very much supporting both the schakowsky and conniers bill. and the american jobs act from president obama as well. we are working to try to get attention in the congress to those measures. and i think it's...
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a special thanks to jedediah bila and bill schulz and john gibson. i'm tom shillou. see you next time. tonight: >> that's not america that we should be and it's not who we are. >> sandra fluke and jay-z just two of the people "time" magazine has nominated for person of the year? but why? and wait until you see who else is on the list. >> gangnam style. >> there is a lot to be said for a wealth tax and especially a concrete wealth tax. >> bill: far left beginning to push for wealth tax that means the feds would confiscate private property. this is being kept very quiet but tonight you will hear all about it? >> gay marriage or accepting immigrants. >> you are absolutely right. they don't want to believe it's time to change it. >> rhode island governor chafee saying he will not save christmas because the times are a changing. we sent jesse wawfortsz -- watters up to rhode island to find out what the heck is going on. >> isn't it discriminating against christians by calling it a holiday tree? >> caution. you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right n
a special thanks to jedediah bila and bill schulz and john gibson. i'm tom shillou. see you next time. tonight: >> that's not america that we should be and it's not who we are. >> sandra fluke and jay-z just two of the people "time" magazine has nominated for person of the year? but why? and wait until you see who else is on the list. >> gangnam style. >> there is a lot to be said for a wealth tax and especially a concrete wealth tax. >> bill: far left...
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i think mitt romney, the analog to him is john kerry. he was a presentable, i think the other guys might not hate him type of former massachusetts -- >> went back into the senate afterward. >> the moment that he disappeared, that's the last you heard about john kerry from any democrat. he was like, enough, we're not going to do that again. there's a lot of republicans saying enough, we're not going do that again. the question is okay, what are you going to do that's different? from my perspective, i don't believe what a lot of democrats fear about republicans, is that they're going to do that it's very rare that you have people making a principal case for that. for the first time in a generation, there are some republicans who are actually making that case. >> i hope so. >> let me ask. there were two other things that came out. the idea of governors. in this country, we elect governors and senators and vice presidents as president, right? if you want to know who is in the running, you want to look at governors, senators and most specific
i think mitt romney, the analog to him is john kerry. he was a presentable, i think the other guys might not hate him type of former massachusetts -- >> went back into the senate afterward. >> the moment that he disappeared, that's the last you heard about john kerry from any democrat. he was like, enough, we're not going to do that again. there's a lot of republicans saying enough, we're not going do that again. the question is okay, what are you going to do that's different? from...
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i find -- again i think john kerry is qualified. the question is are they going to bring the passion? are they going to bring extra charisma needed into the role? the funny thing arne duncan was rumored to be nominated. more likely he would become a stripper than secretary of state. >> jon huntsman name has been thrown around as well. jon huntsman. so yeah, but susan rice again, i think that obama is going to nominate her and it is rumored that john kerry might be secretary of defense. jon: we're going to leave it there. we'll see. it is the president's choice to make. >> that's right. jon: we'll see which choice he does make. thank you both, marjorie clifton, angela mcglowan. >> thank you. jenna: speaker boehner talking about this morning so far, met with treasury secretary tim geithner, all of this having to do with the fiscal crisis and what would happen. what will become of these negotiations between republicans and democrats. we'll take a listen to the speaker a little bit here before we go to break. you can watch the entire re
i find -- again i think john kerry is qualified. the question is are they going to bring the passion? are they going to bring extra charisma needed into the role? the funny thing arne duncan was rumored to be nominated. more likely he would become a stripper than secretary of state. >> jon huntsman name has been thrown around as well. jon huntsman. so yeah, but susan rice again, i think that obama is going to nominate her and it is rumored that john kerry might be secretary of defense....
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let's talk about some of john boehner's plan, though. john boehner is not moving off of rates. he's stilling talking about loophole closures. do you believe you can accomplish what needs to be done on the revenue side and let's step plate democrats have to be more specific about us entitlement side. can you accomplish what you need on the revenue side just by flattening deductions and closing loop snoels. >> it depends on where you set the cap, but i think what's happening here is that the speaker has put on the table revenues, very specific number, $800 billion, a big number compared to where he was before. the president has said $1.6 trillion. well, i think the obvious agreement here is 1.2. split the difference. how you get that extra 400 is an issue. there are a lot of ways to do it. revenues is not a complicated part of this situation. what is really more complex is the issue of how you get the entitlements controlled because there's really been no substantive ideas put forward on that get to the numbers that you really need to get to. now, what interestingly enough what t
let's talk about some of john boehner's plan, though. john boehner is not moving off of rates. he's stilling talking about loophole closures. do you believe you can accomplish what needs to be done on the revenue side and let's step plate democrats have to be more specific about us entitlement side. can you accomplish what you need on the revenue side just by flattening deductions and closing loop snoels. >> it depends on where you set the cap, but i think what's happening here is that...
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john boehner kicked two republicans off the house budget committee. he got rid of another two on the financial services committee. all four voted against the 2011 debt ceiling deal. the two on the budget committee voted against paul ryan's budget. the chairman of the budget committee. speaker boehner issued these punishments with the full support of the republican leadership including the majority leader eric cantor and majority whip kevin mccarthy. jonathan capehart, this is fascinating. i am interpreting this as a positive thing for president obama and the democrats in an attempt to at some point either before or after going off the cliff, reaching some kind of deal with boehner. what boehner's message seems to be to these conservatives willing to vote for something because it is not conservative enough. i need better team players if i'm going to walk back from the white house with a deal. i need your vote on it. >> right. by removing the two from the house budget committee, they basically, what he's doing is putting in people who will do what he sa
john boehner kicked two republicans off the house budget committee. he got rid of another two on the financial services committee. all four voted against the 2011 debt ceiling deal. the two on the budget committee voted against paul ryan's budget. the chairman of the budget committee. speaker boehner issued these punishments with the full support of the republican leadership including the majority leader eric cantor and majority whip kevin mccarthy. jonathan capehart, this is fascinating. i am...
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brooks was in the dallas motorcade when john f. kennedy was assassinated in 1963 and can be seen on air force one standing behind jackie kennedy when lyndon johnson took the oath of office later that day. he was one of the last holdouts of an era when democrats dominated texas politics. brooks supported civil rights and refused to sign the segregation southern manifesto in 1956 and went on to right the civil rights act of 1964. wasn't my daughter's black bean soup spectacular? [ man thinking ] oh, this gas. those antacids aren't working. oh no, not that, not here! [ male announcer ] antacids don't relieve gas. gas-x is designed to relieve gas. gas-x. the gas xperts. >>> and which political story will make head leans in 24 hours contributor and manager editor, chris cizzilis rejoins us. when do you think they get down to seriously talking and you keep hearing that there's some optimism here of people who are really smart players. it's hard to find the signs of it. >> well, andrea, i would predict they won't in 24 hours. look. i do t
brooks was in the dallas motorcade when john f. kennedy was assassinated in 1963 and can be seen on air force one standing behind jackie kennedy when lyndon johnson took the oath of office later that day. he was one of the last holdouts of an era when democrats dominated texas politics. brooks supported civil rights and refused to sign the segregation southern manifesto in 1956 and went on to right the civil rights act of 1964. wasn't my daughter's black bean soup spectacular? [ man thinking ]...
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john? >> go ahead, john. >> go ahead, ana marie. i'm dumbfounded by the fact -- >> you're speechless? >> i'm speechless. >> why? >> jan brewer, presidential timber. are you out of your mind? there's no way. i mean -- >> i say jan brewer 2016. ana marie cox and jonathan capehart. thank you so much. >>> next, is this the week the president picks susan rice as his next secretary of state or has he preferred someone else? stay with us. [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus presents the cold truth. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, stay with us. but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ sighs ] thanks! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus. ♪ oh what a relief it is! ♪ [ male announcer ] to learn more about the cold truth and s
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bush never spoke to one another after john kerry conceded the election. joining me now, pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene erickson. and we have all -- i won't speak for you. i have -- i have more than once, i think, said we will keep in touch, let's keep in touch, to someone i did not then keep in touch with. i don't think i've ever been as phony about it, though, as these two guys today promising to stay in touch with each other after lunch. >> yeah. it was probably -- i've heard some people say the most awkward conversation mitt romney has had since his last conversation. you know, for what it's worth, like, i don't think that either of them really want to stay in touch. i mean, the whole thing was a sill symbolic gesture and i think we can say it is a classy move to do this. it is something that is -- it's -- even if it's purely symbolic, sometimes we need the symbolism. sometimes we need to say, especially after thanksgiving, when we might have all had our own versions of this awkward conversation, thi
bush never spoke to one another after john kerry conceded the election. joining me now, pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene erickson. and we have all -- i won't speak for you. i have -- i have more than once, i think, said we will keep in touch, let's keep in touch, to someone i did not then keep in touch with. i don't think i've ever been as phony about it, though, as these two guys today promising to stay in touch with each other after...
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the survivors, let's hope john boehner is one of them, are saying to their own kind of suicidal group of right wingers, look, i don't want you to take us along with you. we're going to have to compromise. we don't want to be seen by the public as being shills for the super rich. we want 98% of americans to have a tax cut come next year. i mean, representative tom cole was one of them who was quite explicit in saying we need to be on the side of most americans and be seen as being in favor of a tax cut for 98% of americans. well, let's see what the republicans are going to do. i don't know who is going to come out on the winning side of this civil war, but let's hope that the sane, level heads actually prevail. >> dr. peterson, has it surprised you it appear that is republicans have learned nothing since the election, which after all pitched the very super wealthy and the president repeatedly talked about this, versus the majority of americans? >> actually it has not surprised me, martin, because when we're talking about this wing of the republican party, first of all, there's some of
the survivors, let's hope john boehner is one of them, are saying to their own kind of suicidal group of right wingers, look, i don't want you to take us along with you. we're going to have to compromise. we don't want to be seen by the public as being shills for the super rich. we want 98% of americans to have a tax cut come next year. i mean, representative tom cole was one of them who was quite explicit in saying we need to be on the side of most americans and be seen as being in favor of a...